In our first-ever video edition (10th total edition) of “Meet The Pro”, Scott and Al sit down with PGA Tour Short Game Coach, John Graham. With coaching active Tour Pro’s like Bud Cauley, Charles Howell III, Cameron Champ and Justin Thomas (NOT A BIG DEAL), we couldn’t wait to get him on a zoom call and talk golf. In this interview, we get into his Pre-PGA Tour life first as a bowler, starting teaching at Webster Golf Club, Coaching the Men’s Golf Team at Monroe Community College, teaching AimPoint Seminars. We then get into his life in coaching on the PGA Tour from meeting Chris Como who lead to an introduction to Aaron Baddely, to a Twitter DM from Trevor Immelman, to almost quitting teaching in 2017, to the doors flying open and working with names like Joel Dahmen, Daniel Berger, Danny Willet, Graeme McDowell, Justin Thomas and more.
Scroll down to the find the link to the video. Enjoy!
Links to references in this video can be found below:
Welcome to the 7th edition of “Meet the Pro”. If you missed our previous articles, let us quickly explain what/why we do it. A goal of Go Golf U.S. is to build a personal connection in the game of golf again. We want to help players get to know the courses, golf shop staff and Professionals. When we see familiar faces and can add a smile or “Hello”, it makes a better experience for all. So, to gather content for these articles, I (Alan Liwush) put the Pro’s on the hot seat for an interview to find out more about them to share with our Go Golf U.S. community members.
Dave Granata – Golf Services Manager
Monroe County Golf Courses
Dave and I have known each other for years now via mutual friends. Our friendship grew to where it is today when my passion for golf lead to building the Go Golf U.S. app with Scott. Dave was one of the Pro’s at Webster Golf Club, so my time there drastically increased as we were in the development process of the app. With many hours spent in the golf shop working on the app, beverages shared at the bar and rounds played at WGC with him, I now consider him a great friend. I was more than excited to get the opportunity to write this blog about him to learn more about his golf past as well as his future in his new position as the Golf Services Manager of the Monroe County Golf Courses. Without further ado, please enjoy this edition of “Meet The Pro” with Dave Granata.
Background
Dave got bit by the golf bug at the age of 9 when his step-father asked him if he wanted to try and play. Once he saw Dave swing, he knew he was going to be a decent player. From there, he started playing as much as his parents would let him. He even went as far as trying to build a putting green in the backyard as there was just enough room to hit a full gap wedge (I actually tried this as well but it never quite worked out how I envisioned it in my head). A majority of his time in middle school was spent hitting balls in my backyard chewing up the lawn. At 14, he went to Florida to visit his Grandfather for a golf trip. After a round with his grandfather one day, he overheard him telling someone on the phone, “this kids going to be a pro”. Ever since then, he didn’t want to disappoint. When he returned home, he joined the Penfield High School team and continued to play as much as he could.
As of January of 2018, Dave is the Golf Services Manager for the Monroe County Golf Courses. These courses include Genesee Valley, Durand Eastman and Churchville. Prior to that, he spent 11 years with Webster Golf Club. As Head Golf Professional of WGC, learning the industry was his top priority after college. Teaching private, group and junior lessons was a big part of his position. Learning the “business” side of golf was a huge boost in his career and path in the industry. Dave still uses many facets of what he learned there today. Prior to WGC, his first job was at Midvale Country Club, where he started at 16. In a span of 4 years, he learned mainly outdoor operations along with the “Private” sector of the industry. In working at each of these courses, he gained knowledge in the Private, Semi-Private and now, Public sector of the golf business.
Photo above is Dave’s Junior putting clinic at WGC
Granata’s Methods on Teaching and Working with Players
Dave had the pleasure of working with John Graham at Midvale and Webster Golf Club. John has an unbelievable reputation as one of the best instructors in the WNY PGA Section. Having the ability to pick his brain throughout his career for tips was a blessing and all he learned really stuck with him. He says, “I’ve been really lucky to have been able to learn from such a successful instructor.” He also relies on his students for influence as everyone has a unique swing to them.
On teaching style, Granata said, “It’s customized to each student. Every students swing is different and there needs to be a different plan for each. At the beginning of every lesson, I will start with questions to diagnose what exactly they’re looking for. Many times the questions don’t even pertain to golf. I believe you need to find out the students personality and learning style before you can jump into the swing. Once that’s determined, I will try to remove the “imperfections” in that individuals swing/stroke.”
When it comes to “myths” in golf training, the biggest one he hears is “keep your head down”. “This actually makes golfers worse on many occasions. The reason is because your head should be moving toward the target slightly on most shots. People also tend to bury their chin into their chest making it very difficult to create a full 90 degree shoulder turn. To correct this mistake, I tell the student to “keep your eyes down on the ball not your head”. The biggest waste of time in golf training is going to the range and hitting balls to no target. With no target, all you’re doing is exercising. If you want to see improvement, make sure you’re attempting to aim for a target at the range. Work on different types of shots as well. Of course we all want to go the range and just hit driver, however this game is won inside of 100 yards.” I couldn’t agree more with Dave on the short game work. If you really want to drop your score dramatically, work on your putting and chipping! Their is a reason they refer to the wedges as the “scoring” clubs…
Our conversation lead into resources for training like books and video. Unlike others Professionals, Dave gave some references to video with YouTube that he says is a great resource. “Now a days with these videos being at your fingertips, golfers can learn so much. Many golf professionals will post their own instructional videos for free. Although they’re not player specific lessons, they can offer many tips and hints to try something new or correct a common flaw in that person’s game.” I myself, am a very visual learner and like to do research on how to fix things. Though at times I get information overload, I think it helps more than hurts. Dave recommends that a new player not try to teach themselves solely by video and obviously to hire a PGA Professional if trying to learn the game.
Dave’s quick teaching tip to set beginners up for long term success in golf – “PGA” (Posture, Grip & Alignment) “These 3 items could take several lessons to get the student to have a great set up. The set-up is the most important step when playing golf because it starts every golf swing. The first thing you do when you get in your car is fasten your seat belt. I think of this being the 1st safety measure in the golf swing. If you can master a great set up, you will likely have great success in your game.”
Q and A
Q: What do you like to do outside of golf?
A: “I enjoy spending time with my Fianc, Courtney and our chocolate lab, Jax. Whether it’s taking Jax to the beach or running him on the golf course, this is one my favorite hobbies. In the off season, I play Ice hockey and love to play basketball when I find the time. I also love to do improvements to my house. Something about building or making changes to my home gives me a sense of accomplishment. Lastly, vacationing is one my favorite things to do. I believe travel is way better than material items as I like to explore the world and see different things.”
I too love to spend time accomplishing home projects. Their is no way of describing the feeling of accomplishment after putting time and effort into a project and seeing it be appreciated by those around you.
Q: Do you have a hole in one? If so, explain it briefly.
A: “The only hole in one I’ve had was during the “million dollar hole in one challenge” locally in Rochester. I was able to advance to the semi-finals one year. I’ve never had a hole in one while on the course though, and am starving for one. I’ve only seen one in person as well.”
FYI, Dave unfortunately did not get a million dollars for his hole in one during the challenge.. We also need some verification on this to confirm that it counts as a hole in one, we’ll just make sure the judge on this isn’t Scott Chambers…
Q: Name 3 things every player needs in their golf bag? – Can’t be a club.
“A range finding device. Whether it’s a GPS, laser or App. This helps not only the individual’s game but also speeds up play.” I couldn’t agree more with Dave. I purchased a laser (model shown below) last year and it has been life changing!
“A divot repair tool. No one likes to play on bumpy greens. I believe that when you’re playing, you should leave the green in better condition than you found it.” YES! It takes 30 seconds at most to repair a divot properly and most of the time we’re waiting on someone to hit on to a green or putt. Why not fix the green when you’re on it? Isn’t it our duty and responsibility as golfers to respect the course? FIX YOUR DIVOTS!
“A writing utensil. Whether it be a pencil, sharpie or pen, you need one for score keeping or ball marking.” Their is a reason most of the modern bags have a slot for a sharpie on them…
We have listed below some links to great products Go Golf U.S. recommends on Amazon corresponding to Dave’s suggestions.
Photo above is Dave making an Eagle on Par 4 #12 at WGC
Q: What are the most common misconceptions of golf pros?
A: “The biggest misconception I hear is that “you play golf all day for a living”. Golf professionals know that if you’re not on tour, this is by no means accurate. Golf Professionals work sunrise to sunset most of the season whether it be teaching, running the shop, retailing, managing etc. Golf pros work many hours and playing golf always comes after the business is taken care of.”
Q: What golf book is your favorite, do you recommend to read or have you most gifted in the past?
A: “Like many golfers my age, Tiger Woods busted onto the scene and became my idol. The amount of emotion, personality and dominance made him an amazing player to watch. When I was young, I was gifted the book “Tiger Woods – How I play golf”. This is a book that I learned a lot from. From Tiger’s daily routine to fitness to the golf course, I would recommend anyone to read this book to gain some inspiration and knowledge.”
I will be adding that to my reading list! Currently, I’m reading “A Golfer’s Life – Arnold Palmer” but will be picking up this one next!
Q: What’s your view on technology and golf. Two meanings to this – Equipment – Everyone is developing the “farther” is better approach and Electric/mobile tech – more phones, apps and such. When is enough, enough?
A: “Golf has seen technology advance exponentially in the past 30 years from club making, golf balls, launch monitors, GPS, apps and more. I feel the most impactful one would be launch monitors, as this has changed many aspects of teaching. Ball flight laws have been directly impacted due to this. I think that most of the equipment today is all very similar. When customers ask me “what type of irons should I buy?”, I will tell them “whatever irons give you comfort”. Don’t just buy a set of irons because they look cool or have the best rating, go try several irons out and find what suits you. As far as mobile technology, I would say this is the world we live in now. People are walking around with computers in their palm and have instant access to answers they need. I believe that social media is great for the growth of any business and I believe it is the future of marketing strategy in golf. Although, I feel like technology has moved too fast, it’s the world we live in now and will continue to move even faster.”
Going along with what Dave said, I also recommend going and testing out irons for your optimal club selection. You may require a specific shaft stiffness or club head tweak that you won’t know unless you get fitted and test a bunch of clubs.
Q: What’s your view on golf and fitness? Has this changed the game? Do you think it’s positive for the game?
A: “I believe that if you’re a competitive golfer, having a good fitness routine can immensely help. Not only from getting stronger and hitting the ball further, but also from reducing injury and maintaining good stamina. So many golfers get tired out by the end of the round and have trouble finishing strong. Of course, being in good shape doesn’t have to be the case in golf like it is in other sports such as hockey or basketball. There are many players that are great golfers on tour that don’t find fitness to be that important. I believe that if you’re willing to take the time, this will help you reach your goals.”
I agree with Dave. When I play now, I walk and believe it or not, it takes a lot out of you. Having a good fitness routine that won’t lead to injury or soreness but more stamina and flexibility will only help your game.
Q: What’s a perfect day on the course looks like for you? (playing, not working)
A: “The perfect day for me on the course would be a morning round before too many people are there. I am the type of person who likes to play fast and not lose any rhythm. Having a foursome of friends playing a game and cracking jokes all 18 is the perfect day.”
Nothing beats a good day of golf, doing some light gambling, cracking a few bevs and hanging with the boys.
Q: What’s one failure in golf you have experienced that set you up for future success. Can be in golf business, on the course or in life?
A: “To become a PGA Professional, you must complete what is called the Player Ability Test. I had been struggling with my swing during the time of taking this test and failed to pass. Once I knew what I needed I change, I took it upon myself to make swing changes and practice hard. Once I felt comfortable with my game, I was able to go back out there and pass the PAT. This taught me that not everything in life is easy, you must work it at it, stay positive and never give up.”
Find Dave Granata and the Monroe County Courses Online
That wraps up this interview! Thanks for reading our 7th edition of “Meet The Pro” with Dave Granata. I really enjoyed getting to further know Dave as I do with all the interviews. I’m very grateful to call Dave a friend and wish him the best of luck in his new role with the Monroe County Courses. When you have the opportunity to, go play and any of the 3 courses, they’re great!
Be sure to stay tuned for next month’s edition as well as other blog posts. Thanks for reading!
July/August/Seotember Short Par 4 Rating and Review – Box #7, 8 and 9
Haven’t seen our Short Par 4 rating and review before? All good, let us break it down for you. We decided to commit to ONE year of the service with the “Athletic Persona” and do a rating and review of EVERY box that gets shipped to us each month in a video and blog post.
Each month, we will do a 1 minute video clip of the SP4 box and then a longer, more detailed version talking about the products we received. Check them both out below! You can find the rating in the video or by reading the blog post below! Enjoy.If you couldn’t tell by the title of this blog post and have been following along closely previously, we are a bit behind. Though we LOVE doing the rating and review of Short Par 4, we have been busy working on getting more courses signed up, expansion to new cities and of course sneaking out for a few rounds ourselves. Can’t say this is the last time we will fall behind this bad as I hate lying to you all, but we will work our hardest not to slip this long. Without further ado, please read on for the rating and reviews. Thank you.
What’s In The July Box?
Item #1 – Short Par 4 Lido Shorts $45.00
Product info and specs: The Lido Shorts are perfect for Summer. Whether you are on the course or spending the day at the beach, the Lido’s 4 way stretch [rovides comfort and style.Lido Short: Ocean Wave Blue
Flat-Front
4 Pockets
Lightweight
Soft Stretch Fabric
Regular Cut for Complete Comfort
See an image of the shorts below.
These shorts are cool. I wasn’t in love with them. They have a “beachy” feel and that’s not really my style. The inner design was pretty sweet. Nice little touch by SP4. They were however pretty long. For a guy who is 5’6, shorts are tough to come by. I usually air on the side of short and show some extra thigh than not, but that’s just me.
Item #2 – Devereux Jonah Polo – Retail $60.00
Product info and specs:
Jonah Polo
Athletic fit
35% Polyester
65% Pima Cotton
The shirt shown below is not the exact shirt, but it is close. The grey shirt that came in the box was actually pretty sweet. I had never heard of the brand before but liked the pocket on it. I have a Foot Joy shirt that is pretty similar as well. Unique shirt and a nice touch to the collection.
The Rating
In the Facebook live review, I gave this box an 8 of 10 as I didn’t have time to try the shorts on for length. Realistically, this was a 5 out of 10.
August
What’s In The August Box?
Item #1 – Short Par 4 Patrick Polo $45.00
Product info and specs: Short Par 4 Patrick Polo
Quick Drying
4-Way Stretch
Low Shrinkage
Moisture Wicking
95% Polyester, 5% Elastane
See an image of the polo below.
Not really into this shirt at all as you can tell from the video. The material is really nice but the color not so much for me. I was turned off by this month’s box due to receiving the same polo from a few months back.
Item #2 – Puma Essential Pounce Polo – Retail $45.00
Product info and specs: Introducing our best basic polo. Go subtle or opt for color. This go-to top provides moisture wicking properties and DryCELL technology to keep you comfortable and dry for a long day on the links. While your competition brings the heat, COOLMAX Extreme fabrics will keep you cool.
Moisture wicking with dryCELL technology
Raised Heat Transfer Cat Logo on chest
Puma Golf Badge on back collar
100% Polyester Interlock fabric
UV Resistant finish
I already received this shirt in grey in June. Not cool, then I was burdened with sending it back
The Rating
I gave this box a 2 of 10 as I already received the one shirt 2 months before? It is a nice shirt however. If they gave me a different color shirt, I probably would have made it a 7 out of 10.
September
What’s In The September Box?
Item #1 – SP4 Polo by Greyson $45.00
Product info and specs:
Designed exclusively for Short Par 4 by Greyson
Elastane for full range of motion
Moisture wicking
UV Protection
Antimicrobial
90% Polyester
10% Spandex
The shirt is pretty cool. I like the different color collar and the material is really nice. However, I feel like SP4 is trying to disguise their own brands with the Greyson brand. I joined to get brands I like, like Puma, Under Armour and more and this is what we get? Not feeling it.
Item #2 – Greyson Icon T-Shirt $20.00
Icon T-Shirt by Greyson
Luxury Cotton/Polyester blend
Wolf logo on back neck
Old English style Greyson logo across front
52% Cotton
48% Polyester
I don’t know about you guys, but I didn’t join a golf subscription company for a t-shirt. Not feeling this month AGAIN!
The Rating
Not happy again. I rated this a 2 out of 10. Biggest reason for the low rating was the t-shirt. Thats now 3 months in a row with bad ratings. The total MSRP on the box was $65 for $45 in cost. Thats not a whole lot of value to me. If I didn’t commit to a whole year, SP4 would have lost us as a customer. They now have 3 months to keep us happy and on the service or we are OUT!
Again, we apologize for such a long post and less frequent than normal. Judging by the ratings, we weren’t able to show you anything great, but it helps to be honest with how we feel about things.
If you like what you saw, head over to Short Par 4 at this link (http://bit.ly/shortpar4-gogolfus) and sign up to get fresh golf gear sent to your doorstep every month!
AS ALWAYS, If you don’t have our app yet, get ready for the golf season NOW and save on your first round of the year. Head over to the Download page and add it to mandatory golf apps!
Welcome to the fourth edition of “Meet the Pro”. If you missed our previous articles, let us quickly explain what/why we do it. A goal of Go Golf U.S. is to build a personal connection in the game of golf again. We want to help players get to know the courses, golf shop staff and pros. When we see familiar faces and can add a smile or hello, it makes a better experience for all. So, to gather content for these articles, I (Alan Liwush) put the pros on the hot spot in an interview to find more about them to share with all of our Go Golf U.S. community members.
Dr. Keven Hagen TPI Rochester Medical Professional
I had the opportunity to meet Dr. Keven Hagen through some mutual friends and immediately signed up for an appointment with him. His background is in chiropractic work, but his love for golf lead him to getting certified in medical performance with TPI (Titleist Performance Institute). My phase one screening was great and pointed out my strengths and weaknesses. I was able to take those weaknesses to my swing coach, Head PGA Professional of Clifton Springs Country Club, Michael Basch and get tips on how to improve on them. This was exactly what the doctor ordered when I reached out to him, FULL pun intended. Keep reading for the full story of Dr. Keven Hagen’s interview below.
Background
Dr. Hagen works at Rochester Sports Chiropractic in Mendon. He is the owner and practicing doctor on staff. The office officially opens July 24 but will do screenings at local clubs or fitness facilities. Before starting this office he was a personal trainer at Bally Total fitness and a practicing provider at Victor Chiropractic. The concept of the office is to incorporate chiropractic care with personal training exercises or stretches that can be done by anyone, anywhere. His main goal is to get people back on their feet and away from seeing a chiropractor every week for their entire life. He feels most people experience exceptional results in under 2 weeks. At that point, he won’t see them again until they get injured or have a flair up.
I’d say those are some great goals. You can really tell he’s in it for the patients when you meet Dr. Hagen. His kindness shows in his practice and you can feel his passion for helping others when you meet him. We really hit it off when we got to talking golf. Read on for the details.
PHOTO ABOVE IS DR. KEVEN’S LOGO FOR HIS PRACTICE.
Hagen’s Intro into Golf and more
Keven got “bit” by the golf bug after graduating from The University of Iowa and he bought a set of clubs online. When they arrived, he played at Victor Hills and loved every second of it! That summer, he played two rounds a week at every course he could afford on a student budget (Too bad he didn’t have a certain app handy at that time).
His passion for golf is derived from the fact that it’s the only sport where families can play together for years. Growing up with an ice hockey background like myself, it’s rare to see a father and son on the same team. He really enjoys everything about the sport and it’s something he plans on playing with his family for the next 30+ years.
Steps to becoming a TPI Golf Professional
Keven says, “Virtually anyone can be TPI level one and honestly everyone who cares about the sport should consider it. Level two is a little different and it breaks into different tiers based on education and what you want to do. Currently I am medical two and I plan on becoming level three soon (three is the highest). In the future I want to become level two power and fitness so I can educate on all aspects of health with golf.”
After hearing more about it, I did some research and am considering getting certified myself in the fitness aspect of TPI as I have both a passion for fitness and golf.
PICTURED ABOVE IS KEVEN AND THE 2017 MASTERS CHAMPION SERGIO GARCIA
Q and A
Q: Most frequently asked questions by golfers?
A: “Can I fix their slice? No, you can fix it though with proper training and support. What I can do, is help correct faulty movements that may lead to a slice or pain post golf. But I am not a swing coach and never would adjust your swing. What I do is figure out how you move and help your body move at its maximum efficiency.” Keven is VERY adamant about this. He is not a swing coach and doesn’t pretend to play one on TV or the Internet. He has no problem recommending some local golf professionals he works with if you need swing advice.
Q: Whats one thing you would tell/teach every beginner level player to work on to set themselves up for long term success in playing golf?
A: “Get screened. Building a home on a poor foundation will result in future damage. The same applies to golf. If you’re building your swing around poor mechanics there will be problems.”
Q: What are the biggest wastes of time in golf training?
A: “Very difficult question and it really depends on the individual. Personally, I feel most people waste time at the driving range. Basically you spend your entire day sitting. You sit for breakfast, sit on the commute to work, sit at work, sit at lunch, sit on the drive to the range, then you do 30 seconds of hamstring or core rotation stretches and pound out a bucket. It’s unfortunate, but the risk of injury sky rockets during that hour and you actually hurt your training.” This made perfect sense when Keven said it. At first I wanted to say well you need to go to the range to practice to get better and then quickly realized I don’t go right into a workout without warming up first. The same rules apply for golf and proper warm up should be done with a stretch routine before you go hammering a large bucket.
Q: Who are the most impressive lesser-known golf instructors/trainers?
A: “Any TPI level two or three provider. Almost every professional has a TPI Chiropractor, Physical Therapist or swing coach on staff. And there’s a reason. 15 of the last 18 Major Championships, 25 of the Top 35 Players in the World and 52 of the last 63 PGA TOUR events were won by players advised by a TPI Certified Expert.” The numbers say it all… Go see a TPI professional and work on you mobility and flexibility.
Q: What do you believe makes your teaching style different? Who trained or influenced you?
A: “My approach is simple. I was a personal trainer, I studied under a physical therapist for a year then went to Chiropractic college. I incorporate everything I learned and put it under one roof.”
Q: What’s your view on golf and fitness? Has it changed the game? Do you think its positive for the game?
A: “Most people think golf is the easiest sport. In some regards yes, it is. You don’t get tackled or have to dodge 100mph hockey pucks, but golf requires extreme endurance. With fatigue or poor mechanics that one millimeter mistake at the tee will result in several yards at 220+ yards away. Training for golf needs to be a combination of endurance and power. Endurance to ensure each swing is consistent. Power because you need strength to maximize club head speed. If you don’t train you won’t get good consistent shots.” I couldn’t agree more with Keven. I have focused my athletic training on both endurance and power and have seen my game be the most consistent it has been in years
The fun stuff
Q: What are your views on Tiger’s past workout regimen. Was it too much?
A: I didn’t see Tigers specific training. But a few months ago, people were critiquing Rory’s deadlift regimen. I feel what Rory was doing was perfect. He was having appropriate rest periods, water intake and nutrition. His exercises were literally perfect. He targeted explosive and endurance exercises to maximize his game.”
Q: Who is a good golfer besides being poorly built for it or who is good at golf and “Shouldn’t be”?
A: “John daly and Sergio Garcia”
Name 3 things every player needs in their golf bag? – Can’t be a club.
A. “1. Divot tool, I hate to see beat up greens.
2. Water and food. I always have a liter water bottle that I fill up at the turn. I also am a big fan of light meals during the day. I usually have a bag of grapes, a small bag peanuts or cashews and a peanut butter jelly sandwich.
3. Titleist golf balls, preferably Pro V1’s!”
You can find Pro V1’s below on Amazon!
Q: What is one thing you think EVERY golfer needs – has to be $99 and under?
A: Well for the 2017 season every golfer needs a good pair of waterproof shoes. It’s like a pond out there.”
For good golf shoes, we at Go Golf U.S. recommend the Foot Joy Hyper Flex II. It’s a great light weight shoe with aggressive spikes to handle the uncontrollable NY weather…
What is one fitness/strength device you think every golf needs or should be using?
A: I’m a big fan of kettlebell exercises. If done right you can get exceptional results from low weight kettlebell’s. Having a set of 3 (5, 10, and 15 lbs) in the apartment or home gym is more than enough. Solid cast iron is the only option, it doesn’t really matter which company.
Keven also recommended the company below which you can find on Amazon as well.
Q: What is your favorite course in Rochester and why?
A: “It’s a little out there, but Winged Pheasant is my go to. Every time I go the course, it’s in great condition and it’s rarely busy.”
Q: Who do you follow for tips advice and tricks for golf fitness?
Where to find Dr. Keven Hagen and Rochester Sports Chiropractic
Dr. Hagen will be focusing on treating athletes in the southern Rochester suburbs. His emphasis will be on body mechanics rather than strength and conditioning. Having worked with Olympic, Division 1 and other high caliber athletes, he will bring a unique approach to the region.
Last notes from the Doc., “I accept most insurances, but please call to confirm. My cash rate is $100 for the first appointment and $40 for follow ups. Typically, 1-2 follow ups will be enough per season, unless a true injury needs to be treated.”[/cs_text][cs_text]That all folks! Thanks for reading our July edition of “Meet The Doc” with Dr. Keven Hagen. I had a blast getting to know Keven as I do with all the interview, but he really educated me on the fitness aspects of golf that absolutely NEED to be paid attention to before you have an injury on your hands.
Be sure to stay tuned for next month’s edition as well as other blog posts. Thanks for reading!
Haven’t seen our Short Par 4 rating and review before? All good, let us break it down for you. We decided to commit to ONE year of the service with the “Athletic Persona” and do a rating and review of EVERY box that gets shipped to us each month in a video and blog post.
Each month, we will do a 1 minute video clip of the SP4 box and then a longer, more detailed version talking about the products we received. Check them both out below! You can find the rating in the video or by reading the blog post below!
Haven’t seen our Short Par 4 rating and review before? All good, let us break it down for you. We decided to commit to ONE year of the service with the “Athletic Persona” and do a rating and review of EVERY box that gets shipped to us each month in a video and blog post.
Each month, we will do a 1 minute video clip of the SP4 box and then a longer, more detailed version talking about the products we received. Check them both out below! You can find the rating in the video or by reading the blog post below!
What’s In The Box?
Item #1 – Travis Mathew Polo- Retail $74.95
Product info and specs: The solid-color Travis Mathew Polo pairs well with jeans or slacks, making it great for on and off the course.Crenshaw Polo: Heather Blue
Designed with Prestige77 enhanced strength fabric
TM script logo under back collar
Four button collar
Wrinkle Resistant
Moisture Wicking
Low Shrinkage
Quick Drying
See an image of the polo below. I am pretty excited about this golf shirt. Travis Mathew is a big name brand and it’s about time SP4 hit us with some good gear that they advertise all the time on social media. I do agree this will be a good shirt for on and off the course. Stoked about adding this polo to the arsenal!
Item #2 – Short Par 4 Players Towel – Retail $15.00
Product info and specs: The SP4 Players Towel will be your new favorite accessory on the course. Sturdy, non-abrasive microfiber fabric makes it easy to wipe clubs clean, and its waffle pattern design helps absorb 3x its weight.
Waffle-textured for superior absorption
Handle to hang over golf clubs
Non-abrasive microfiber
14in x 36in
Lint free
I have been wanting to pick up a waffle texture towel for a while now so this couldn’t have come at a more perfect time. After using one in the past, it was time to get rid of it and add a new one. These bad boys wipe clubs squeaky clean and hold water well to give a nice shine. Super excited about this golf towel.
Item #3 – SP4 Nova Belt – Retail $20.00
Product info and specs: This classic and versatile belt is made of interwoven stretch fabric and finished with leather details. Its easy size adjusting makes it great for all occasions.Nova Belt: Grey
Genuine leather and woven elastic fabric
Stretch fit for desired tightness
Silver toned metal buckle
This belt was just an added touch to the box. Not really my style for belts. I would return it, but not worth it to ship back. Ill keep it in the reserves for a day when I’m in a pinch and need a belt or designate it as we “work” belt.
The Rating
I was in a bit of a rush that day so preparation was small for this one. I forgot to leave a rating on the video and I record on the philosophy of “one and done” so if I forget something, it’s not making the final cut.
For a rating, I gave this box a 7 of 10. Great brand name apparel with the Travis Mathew polo. I also needed a new towel really bad so It was fitting. Stay tuned for the June box coming in a few weeks. I will try to get these out a bit quicker as it’s already June while I’m writing this…
If you like what you saw, head over to Short Par 4 at this link (http://bit.ly/shortpar4-gogolfus) and sign up to get fresh golf gear sent to your doorstep every month!
AS ALWAYS, If you don’t have our app yet, get ready for the golf season NOW and save on your first round of the year. Head over to the “Download” page and add it to mandatory golf apps!
Welcome to the third edition of “Meet the Pro”. If you missed our previous articles, let us quickly explain what/why we do it. A goal of Go Golf U.S. is to build a personal connection in the game of golf again. We want to help players get to know the courses, golf shop staff and pros. When we see familiar faces and can add a smile or hello, it makes a better experience for all. So, to gather content for these articles, I (Alan Liwush) put the pros on the hot spot in an interview to find more about them to share with all of our Go Golf U.S. community members.
Ben Wilson of Sodus Bay Heights Golf Club
I had only met Ben in passing at the club and through some friends. This was truly my first interview going into the situation knowing little to nothing about the pro other than where he worked. Was it challenging? Not at all! Once we got going into the questions it was like I knew Ben for years. That being said, enjoy this short story/interview on Ben Wilson of Sodus Bay Heights Golf Club.
Background
Growing up in Richmond, VA, Ben’s parents were members at a Country Club. An exhibition senior tour event was going on called the Valentine Tournament at Hermitage CC. The big names like Arnold, CiCi, Orville Moody and Art Wall were all playing. At the age of 6, Ben met Arnie and CiCi when they signed his visor. Young Ben was enamored at how star struck he was with the players he could barely speak. Ben’s parents took note and the next week, for his bday, he received a set of Wilson Jr. Staff blades with wood woods and driver with a red and white leather bag. From there, the golf bug had bit him.
Years later, selling furniture in his parents furniture store in Charlotte, NC created a skill that lead Ben into his first job in golf as sales rep for Softspikes. During the transition period between metal and soft spikes, Ben was able to take advantage and convert 75 courses in the Myrtle Beach area. This was only a year trial period with the company but lead Ben to a passion for the game and finding another job in golf. He landed at Birkdale GC as a bag boy and worked his way up to shop assistant. Shortly after that, he headed West for the mountains of North Carolina for Linville GC where he met one of his future mentors, Bill Harmon. With the West coast and sun on his mind, he set out with Bill for Palm Dessert, California where he took a position for 6 years, “Chasing the sun” as Ben called it traveling back and forth between seasons at Big Horn GC. Bill Harmon then introduced Wilson to his brother, Craig Harmon which lead him to a position as assistant pro at Oak Hill Country Club in 1999. He made a jump to head pro position at Ridgemont CC in 2005 and then to today where he currently resides as head golf professional of Sodus Bay Heights Golf Club since 2015.
Throughout his career, Ben earned his class A PGA status through the GPTP (Golf Professional Training Program) which was the predecessor to the PGM. He currently holds all 3 levels. An impressive history with many beautiful clubs and great mentors have helped him in learning about the game and becoming a head pro today.
PHOTO ABOVE IS OF BEN WITH SBHGC MEMBERS.
Wilson’s Teaching Style and Ideology
Even with training from pro’s John Busick, Craig and Bill Harmon, Ben believes his teaching style is no different than anyone else. Craig was his ultimate mentor and he shapes much of what he tries to do in teaching and in life from things he learned from him. He explains his style as a “focus on squaring the club face.” Efficiency plays a large role in his position as a teacher as he explained to me that the leisure golfer isn’t always about prettiness. If he can get a player to square the club face or release the club more, then it’s a job well done. He also puts a focus on “swinging the club vs. hitting the ball”. Positive progress is made when his players are swinging instead of just trying to hit it.
A main point I wanted to make in these articles is recommendations for players on where they are wasting time in trying to get better. Ben’s biggest mistakes he sees players make is “overloading their minds with information they have seen on channels or articles. Information overload becomes a problem when talking about a swing that takes less than two seconds. Research is great but can sometimes do more harm than good.” I heard a similar answer from Webster Golf Club pro, Scott Chambers (article here) as well and have a feeling it wont be my last….
Since a majority of us are not “pro” level, I asked Ben next What are the biggest mistakes he see’s novices make on the course?
His answer was as follows. “It starts at the tees. What tees people choose to play is a common mistake I see. I have seen a lot of egos take over at the start of a round. If you’re playing here at Sodus and on your best day you carry the ball down-hill down-wind 180 yards with your driver, you have no business playing the blue tees. We have various tees to accommodate for distance of the players. Golfers tend to play courses that are too long for them. People have a tough time cutting the cord with the fact that they aren’t carrying the ball as far anymore or don’t want to mess up a game they are playing with friends. It’s the biggest mistake I see from course management. Secondly is club selection. While you’re on the course, it comes back to knowing exactly how far you hit your clubs. Maybe when you were 40 and hit a 7 iron 150 yards and now you’re 60, you’re not swinging a 7 iron that far. Just knowing how far you hit your irons is crucial.” I couldn’t agree more with Ben. For a long time, I would try to play the Blue tees and would get eaten up on the course. I decided to stay at the whites until I hit a certain handicap number. Now that I hit that, I move up to the whites occasionally to give the course a different look. It’s actually very challenging mentally.
Short term success is ok but we all play this game for long term success. Starting beginner level players in the right direction is a goal of mine and Go Golf U.S. as it will help grow the game overall. Ben made a great point when I asked what’s one thing he would teach beginner level players to set themselves up for long term success? His response was “start in the game working from the green backwards.” This was something I hadn’t heard before and his point was excellent. He said, “Starting the golf experience from the putting green to chipping to pitching to bunkers and then to the full swing. Its fun to hit long shots off the tee and how far you can make the ball go, but the scoring happens the closer you get to the hole.” This made perfect sense in that after you start getting “good” you focus on scoring. If you know/are more comfortable with the areas where you can save strokes, you’ll have a better chance at success in this challenging game.
Q and A
Q: What’s your view on golf and fitness? Has it changed the game? Do you think its positive for golf?
A: “Lets start at a tour level in 96 with Tiger coming out when he was still lanky and better than everyone by a landslide. Then he became a monster with a fitness regimen second to none which we know was spurred by guys coming after him. Then we have Rory and Vijay who are fitness buffs. I think it helped Vijay keep longevity in his career just from working out. To play at a top level, you have to be physically fit. You don’t see the Miller Barber shaped guys who have never been in a gym a day in there lives but can flat out play really making a big impact anymore. The physical fitness part of the game is crucial and the way its going, you need speed and length. Dustin Johnson is the perfect example of that. He could probably play another professional sport tomorrow, he’s a physical specimen. For the average golfer, I’d love to see more stretching and elasticity all around. Take some time to warm up for the round. I see a lot of guys walk out from the car to the first tee and its luck if they hit a good one. Simple stretching routines are crucial for pre round success.”
I couldn’t agree more. After this interview, I implemented some simple stretches I do in the locker room before a round.
Q: What’s your view on technology and golf? (Two meanings to this, Equipment and Electric/mobile tech.)
A: “There is no question that the golf ball is very long right now. I think they are at the limits where they are talking about restricting the flight of the ball for the pros by creating a PRO only ball. The top tour line balls that we play now are amazing. No spin off the driver and they spin like crazy on your iron/wedge shots. You get the best of both worlds with one ball. Any golfer can benefit from playing a Pro V. Any golfer no matter the handicap you’re going to have more distance off the tee and closer shots with short irons. In regards to club, drivers, fairway woods and hybrids are border line illegal! They are sooo much longer than ten years ago. With all of the face technology plus weighting/adjustability, it takes a lot of guess work away from where the ball is going to go. That being said, you still need to be able to square the club face on your own. You can change the face angle and other stuff but you NEED to keep repeating that swing. From a mobile tech side, I would highlight use of a launch monitor. No question in my mind that launch monitor helps the game and to figure out how far you hit golf shots. Where you are hitting the ball on the club face is key and it can tell you that as well. We have a flight scope here are SBHGC. I use it for fitting and teaching. It tells you ball speed, club head speed, carry distance and more. Carry distance is huge because people think they hit it farther than they do, but the tech. has the ability tell you exactly how far you’re hitting the shots, where your spin is, where the attack angle is and how your can improve those things with instruction.”
If you haven’t done flight scope testing yet, call Ben at SBHGC and check it out. You will likely be unpleasantly surprised with how short you true carry is… (or maybe I just need to put some more hips into my swing!)
Q: What are the most common misconceptions of golf pros?
A: “That we play all the time. People think you just play golf really. For me, its about 10% of the job. I don’t think people are aware, nor should they be, of the things that go on in the industry. Your typical PGA pro wears a lot of hats by design. There’s a lot of different roles you get to play as a pro from master of ceremonies to confidant to food and beverage manager to greens consultant and so on. A lot of things are going on, its not just playing golf, teaching lessons and selling shirts. There are a lot of critical parts of the operation that go unseen if you will. Interpersonal skills are extremely important and if you can master those and getting to know guests and members on a personal level, you are ahead of the game.”
Q: How do you think we can get more juniors involved in the game? Having kids, I’m sure you have seen what works and what doesn’t.
A: “The way I do it is by making it as easy and most enjoyable for the kids as possible. Flexibility in schedules is very important for us at SBHGC. We have ton of juniors who want to play, but can’t be at the club at the same time as other juniors. For me, I try to make myself more available to the juniors. As a whole, in golf itself, we need to make the game more interesting as far as games we are showing kids while teaching. For example, I went to get certified in Pittsburg for U.S. Kids Junior golf as a coach. The biggest thing I learned was the teaching of the game needs to be in a fun atmosphere and there are so many ideas on how to engage kids and keep them involved and interested. From a practice standpoint, the biggest downfall now is time to get on the course. Schedules are tight and kids are playing other sports, which I recommend. If we can get the captive audiences and make it fun from a learning standpoint, it becomes more accessible on the course. While on the course, it has to be short and fun enough to have perceived success. If kids get the feeling of success, you have hit your goal. As far as getting juniors to play, they need to have a place to hit balls and they need equipment readily available at the courses. Getting group clinics with multiple children and instructors is great as well.”
Ben had some great insight seeing as he has kids in the golf world. I am excited to see what he brings to Sodus and the Rochester area on the Jr. program level.
Life Lessons
Q: Whats the most important thing golf has taught you? And you hope it teaches others?
A: “Golf has given me the opportunity to meet so many wonderful people. It teaches us all the same thing in honor, integrity and honesty. It has made me understand how to be more humble. I can’t always do what I want to do on the course or lesson tee, but I always enjoy myself while I’m playing. What I’m enjoying now more a days is watching people play better, have fun and developing relationships. I really don’t know if I’ve meet someone on the course that has been absolutely unbearable. You have some sort of common bonds as golfers no matter who you are. Its been a huge part of my life in the people I have met and built relationships with.
This was an amazing answer to hear. I hope you can feel the passion for his response as much as I did when he answered.
The fun stuff
Q: What golf book is your favorite, do you recommend to read or have you most gifted in the past? I like this question for gentleman over 40 as they tend to read more?
Ben’s favorite book right now is “Men In Green’ by Michael Bamberger. Bamberger was an old sports reporter and former tour caddie. The book talks about Nicklaus, Palmer and other big names, but also under the radar pros and caddies from the golf world in the 70s,80s and 90s.
Q: Name 3 things you need in the golf bag – CANNOT be a club.
“Bandaids. No one ever has them and sometimes a small cut can make the difference in a golf swing.”
I was skeptical about this answer at first, but then understood after some explaining.
Nutrition – Ben’s nutrition of choice is a Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwich.
I liked this answer a lot. I have been walking more these days and make a conscious effort to put some healthy nutrition in my bag so that I’m not grabbing a hot dog at the turn… (no hot dogs for me, maybe a few beers though)
A range finder – Common answer thus far with all of our pros.
Go Golf U.S. recommended brand is the Bushnell tour V3
Q: What do you like to do outside of golf?
“I’m a Full time dad so I’m usually spending time with the kids. I Love to play the guitar. I grew up playing them with my whole family.”
Q: Have you had a hole in one? If so, how many. If not, how close have you got?
A: “I do. 2002 8th hole of the West course at Oak Hill CC.”
The hole in one question is now going to be a question we ask to ALL pros. It’s a lighter subject to talk about since I have one already.. (Clifton Springs Country Club 2016 hole #13 – I can give you the date and time too..)
Pictured below is Ben and his son.
About Sodus Bay Heights Golf Club From Wilson
History and layout of the course from Wilson, “The first 9 was built in the mid to late 1920s by locals. It was different than the front 9 is here now, but a majority of the holes were built then. Then a popular architect by the name of Geoffrey Cornish came in the late 60″s and was commissioned to redo the front 9 and finish the back 9. We are considered a Geoffrey Cornish design. The layout starts on the water and then goes back inland. There is a lot of hilly terrain with elevated greens and side hill type of shots. Its more narrow than long. The longest we can stretch it is 6700 yards which is plenty for the type of course it is. I consider it a parkland style course with tree lines. Accuracy is more important than length here. A few holes will give you an advantage but not many.”
I wanted to put the pro’s on the hot seat and asked them, What their favorite and least favorite hole on their golf course was. This may be me doing my own homework to know which holes to look out for and which to take some chances on when I play them…
Ben’s favorite hole – “My favorite and most fun hole for me to play is the 3rd hole. Which, its probably the least favorite for a lot of players. Its a longer par 4 that demands a lot off the tee. You almost have to hit it perfectly to gain any advantage. Its a well bunkered green and it gives a visual illusion of a swell about a 100 yards before the green that makes it look like the green is closer than it is, so you really have to trust your yardage on that second shot. Favorite par 3 is #6. Short par 3, I love short par 3’s because they demand a very precise shot with a short iron. The bunkering on the hole is just wonderful. The bunker complexes on the course are really well designed and maintained all together. “
Hole #6 shown below
Ben’s answer to his least favorite hole – “I don’t really know. Most benign hole for me would be #10. It’s a great hole to start the back 9 on. Not just because its the 10th hole, but because its wide open, no fairway bunkers and the green is really large. For me, it’s a driver to short wedge. Its a great opportunity to make no less than par. It serves it’s purpose.”
Rates and Find Sodus Bay Heights Golf Club online
To help get SBHGC info out there, the public rates for 2017 will be $50 weekend and $45 week day at peak rate for 18 with a cart (you of course can play for $30 with the Go Golf U.S. app for $30 during allowed times). They are currently our only semi-private course involved with Go Golf U.S. – To see out membership opportunities with SBHGC, check out their site here at https://www.sodusbayheights.com/membership, which we highly recommend as they have great incentives for young adult members.
That concludes our May edition of “Meet The Pro” with Ben Wilson. I cant say enough good things about Ben after getting to know him better. Next time you’re at SBHGC, say hello to him and his staff.
Be sure to stay tuned for next month’s edition as well as other blog posts. Thanks for reading!
Haven’t seen our Short Par 4 rating and review before? All good, let us break it down for you. We decided to commit to ONE year of the service with the “Athletic Persona” and do a rating and review of EVERY box that gets shipped to us each month in a video and blog post.
Each month, we will do a 1 minute video clip of the SP4 box and then a longer, more detailed version talking about the products we received. Check them both out below! You can find the rating in the video or by reading the blog post below! Enjoy.
Please take note of the Green Puma shirt I’m wearing in the feature image and video. That was delivered in the February SP4 box and can be seen in this blog post HERE!
Item #1 – Short Par 4 Whitfield Polo – Retail $45.00
Product info and specs: The Short Par 4 Whitfield Polo will be the most comfortable polo you put on all season. Designed with style and comfort to make your next round that much more enjoyable.
Whitfield Polo: Coral / Sky Blue trim
Quick Drying
Moisture Wicking
4-Way Stretch
Low Shrinkage
See an image of the polo below. I have to agree with them when they say “the most comfortable polo you’ll put on this season”. Super soft and great material. The color was a little outlandish for my sty but I needed to mix a few “different” color shirts in.
Item #2 – Striker Full Zip Jacket – Retail $45.00
Product info and specs: The full zip, stretch fabric Striker Jacket is perfect for early morning tee times and date night downtown. The best part? Your Striker Jacket matches next month’s best selling apparel item from Travis Mathew!
Striker Jacket: Black / Heather Grey Griffin trim
Lightweight
Water Resistant
Zipper Secure Pockets
Stretch Fabric for Mobility
So, not sure if I would be rocking this for “date night downtown” unless I wanted my fiancé to snap show on me, but it is perfect for an early morning tee time. Nice stretchy material perfect for the swing! And I guess this means well be getting a hat by Travis Mathew next month as they gave us a little hint in the marketing materials… Be prepared to see me snap because I have the smallest head and no hats fit me.
Item #3 – Shoe Bag – Retail $15.00
Product info and specs: This complimentary Short Par 4 Shoe Bag completes your shoe style from last month. COnsider it a small thank you for being a part of the SP4 community.Short Par 4 Shoe bag: Black, Chartreuse (Neon Green), Red
Designed with style and durability
Double-stitched nylon handle
Full Zip opening
Mesh window
Shoes not included
I was all kinds of jacked up about the shoe bag this month. One because I am a practical guy and needed one. Two, well I’m a practical guy and needed one so I didn’t get dirt and mud all over the inside of my truck from my shoes. The weather here in Rochester, NY is not the best which means a lot of muddy rounds unfortunately so this is the perfect compliment to my golf gear.
The Rating
Decent box this month. If you watch the video, I gave it a 7 out of 10. Great retail to actual price seeing as the polo and jacket would be $45 each to buy individually and the the shoe bag $15. Pretty good if you ask me. A good variety of products and useful! I was definitely happy about the bag and as I go back through these and watch my reaction it’s funny to see how excited I was about a shoe bag… Any who, Stay tuned for next month’s Short Par 4 Rating and Review video and blog in mid-May.
If you like what you saw, head over to Short Par 4 at this link (http://bit.ly/shortpar4-gogolfus) and sign up to get fresh golf gear sent to your doorstep every month!
AS ALWAYS, If you don’t have our app yet, get ready for the golf season NOW and save on your first round of the year. Head over to the “Download” page and add it to mandatory golf apps!
Haven’t seen our Short Par 4 rating and review before? All good, let us break it down for you. We decided to commit to a year of the service with the “Athletic Persona” and do a rating and review of EVERY box that gets shipped to us each month in a video and blog post.
The Callaway Balboa golf shoe feature Dura-rubber spikeless outsole with multi-directional, traction control lugs, Opti-soft EVA midsole for natural ground feel and comfort, 5mm EVA sockliner and Opti-vent mesh liner for breathability and heat management.
See an image of the shoes below and scroll beyond that for the rating.
Callaway Performance Socks features: Low Cut, Y-fit toe and heel , conforming fit top, alternating rib, performance fibers for improved moisture management.
The Rating
Ill shoot you straight, I was not happy with this box. I’m not a big fan of Callaway gear personally, so I had some issues with it. As I stated in the video, I have a pair of spikeless shoes by Puma already and they are basically useless in Rochester, NY as the weather is not permitting. Price point for retail compared to price paid wasn’t bad though in the $45 cost compared to $112.94 retail and at least I got a pair of socks out of it…. So, I will give this box a 3 out of 10 as stated in the video. If you look at the average of the 3 boxes thus far, we are at a 6.3 out of 10 so that’s not bad. The positive to this “bad box” is that I will get to use my mulligan and trade in the shoes for other products that I can select from the Short Par 4 Shop site which I just found out about. I will be able to select gear I want and pay a restocking fee. I will let you know how it goes!
Stay tuned for next month’s Short Par 4 Rating and Review video and blog in mid-April.
AS ALWAYS, If you don’t have our app yet, get ready for the golf season NOW and save on your first round of the year. Head over to the “Download” page and add it to mandatory golf apps!
Welcome to the second edition of “Meet the Pro”. If you missed the first edition, let us quickly explain what/why we do it. A goal of Go Golf U.S. is to build a personal connection in the game of golf again. We want to help players get to know the courses, golf shop staff and pros. When we see familiar faces and can add a gracious smile or hello, it makes a better experience for all. So, to gather content for these blogs, I (Alan Liwush) put the pros on the hot seat in an interview to find more about them to share with all of our readers. We currently have no set order for the selection of our Pro interview, so don’t think we are playing favorites by any means. Furthermore, please enjoy this hilarious edition of “Meet The Pro” with Chris Devincentis of Eagle Vale Golf Course.
Chris Devincentis of Eagle Vale Golf Course
In knowing Chris “Devo” Devincentis from the past, I looked forward to doing this interview. In getting to know him over the years, he is truly an amazing person and golf instructor. His dry humor will come out in his jokes but once you get to understand him, he is all the more funny. Enjoy this short story/interview on Chris Devincentis of Eagle Vale Golf Course.
Background
I figured I would start this one on the lighter side in which I opened the interview with a totally irrelevant golf question. It was, “How do you pronounce your last name?” I asked this question as I have a confusing last name to say based off the spelling and wanted to bring some clarity to those that have been calling Chris “Chris D” or “Devo” for years. His answer was, “Great question, I like where this interview is going already. We’ll ya see its quite simple. We’re going to break it down just like I would a golf swing. You start with a hard letter D (DEE), then you add the name Vincent but emphasize the V in Vin and C in Cent (DEE-Vin-Cent) and finish off with the word Is (De-Vin-Cent-Is).” After his explanation, it did make more sense. He elaborated by saying, “That’s of course how I say it, but my Italian cousins and ancestors could say it entirely different, who knows?”
I am always curious on how people got started into the game of golf (especially pros) and I find the same answer a lot, but the trend of “my father influenced me” is a very positive one. Chris began playing golf at the age of 15 at Braemar Country Club (also part of Go Golf U.S.). His father, a member at the time, would bring him out on the course to caddy. The caddying consisted of carrying an old pleather bag (that weighed as much as he did at the time) and when things slowed down on the course, it was off into the woods to search for lost balls. “I was OK with searching for balls. It was like my own Easter egg hunt, it was fun for me back then.” Devincentis’s father was explained as a “real weekend warrior who played strict by the rules, an 18 handicap all day. But, he did it right with me. He held me on the range and in lessons until I was ready for the course. When I graduated to the course, the real fun started. I would get dropped off at the course in the morning and carry 18 with that goofy pleather bag with all the black tubes in it. The tube would come out whenever you pulled a club out. Drove me crazy! But, my love for golf surpassed the number of things that were not ideal about it.”
Chris, much like the other pros have said, was given a passion for the game by his father. Another influential person to pulling a young Devincentis into the game was the Braemar PGA Pro (at the time) Al Martin who now works for him at Eagle Vale. “I always will remember Al for having the Best/Worst plaid and sansabelt golf pants. I loved the style and reverence that the old guys had. It was a style that was unique and I dug it!”. The biggest things that pulled Chris into the game were his father, the culture and the people coupled with the fact that “the game of golf can be played forever.” He really liked it growing up as “it didn’t require getting wacked with a stick by a fellow player in the head or knee area.” All valid points made.
-Side note. I asked Chris if he still had any of his “wild” looking pants like Al from his younger days. his response was, “I have a few pairs of updated pants by Nike that I’m sure 20 years from now someone will say, ahh don’t you remember those goofy Nike pants Chris used to wear, hilarious right”? Think about Puma and Rickie, one day they wont be in style and you look back and laugh. To answer the question, Yes I still own outlandish clothes but they are from now a days.
At 17, Chris took his first job in golf working on the grounds crew at Braemar. “I knew by the time I was 17 I wanted to become a PGA professional and stay in golf all my life, if that was possible.” Several years later, he found himself in the golf shop. A job opportunity took him over to Big Oak Golf and Driving range. Then we finish up at today with his current position as head golf professional at Eagle Vale, which he has been for 15 years and counting.
PHOTO ABOVE IS OF CHRIS TEEING OFF ON 1 AT EAGLE VALE.
Golf Talk, Instructing, Life Lessons and Random Goodness
Let’s get right into the nitty gritty. One of my favorite questions I ask the Pro’s is, What’s your view on technology and golf? After asking this, I got a “note to self, hate Al Liwush for asking hard questions” on this one before the answer. “I call it the Space Race and they have already done some things to ban it because you can’t just go hit a super ball from the tee to the green every time.” I couldn’t agree more with this. The long ball is impressive, but when does it stop?
This started a little bit of a tangent but it was hilariously true. Chris then said, ‘Then I sit there and say ya know back in my day when I passed my PAT (Playing Ability Test) I did it with a piece of wood and an actual golf ball. Now, I hit the ball further than when I was younger. If I hit the real wood now I cant even get it to go 200 yards and I say how did I ever hit a ball square in my life time? They had blades and woods and thats it.” For you younger readers, take a look at what he means below… I bet anyone a lifetime membership to Go Golf U.S. that they can’t shoot a round under 15 over par with a set of these! (Side by side view of an old driver next to a “newer” driver)
Instruction
Golfer FAQ’s – I let Chris tell me and answer many of the frequently asked questions by golfers below. His answer’s are in quotes.
Regarding lessons – How do I cure my Slice?
“This is still the standard issue with the golf swing. It’s actually not just the player’s fault either. The Earth’s orbit still tends to send peoples balls on a left to right trajectory around the globe haha! There are many ways to cure it. I watch people hit first, use video to show them what’s causing the slice, then fit some drills to cure the nasty curve!”
In regards to equipment – Why don’t you carry more left handed clubs?
“Would love to, but the shop is only so big, right?”
Asking about the course – Who put the pins in today?
“When people putt poorly, the grounds superintendent becomes “Carl” the greenskeeper from Caddyshack, with evil intent for golfers, not gophers.”
Chris’s explanation on rules questions had me laughing hysterically because I have been through it personally before. “A LOT of rules questions, with people running into the shop with hands and arms flailing, trying to get me or whoever will listen on their side for a rules violation or issue. One guy starts his sad story, but I stop them before the get started. STOP. I always ask them to give me the story with player “A” and player “B”, so I don’t get in the middle of that dramatic, $2 weekend-nassau-I’ll-kill-you-so and so…..LOVE those questions. I become a lawyer, judge, jury and psychotherapist within about a minute! Everyone thinks it’s so cut and dry when it’s not. Then you tell them the rule and take it as player A and B to alleviate hurting any feelings.”
Next time you head into the pro shop asking the pro for help, be sure to use the player A and B scenario, it will be more helpful.
My standard questions for the pro’s
What’s one thing you would tell/teach every beginner level player to work on to set themselves up for long term success in playing golf?
“Off the top of my head, it’s really simple and it doesn’t have to necessarily be a PGA pro who teaches you but, I would say 1. Get a good grip 2. A good posture and 3. Learn how to aim. If you can do that, you’re going in the right direction. To me, you have to be able to grip it properly, bend and athletically move and then aim. If you’re not aimed properly, you’re in trouble to begin with. Then if you’re athletic, you’ll start changing the swing to compensate for bad aim and it usually goes bad from there. Those are three things that my Grama at 95 can learn. And if you can learn those three things to start you’re OK. Its already an impossible game, start with those. AND don’t listen to your husband/significant other. Don’t listen on course either, make changes on the range.”
What are the biggest mistakes/myths you see in golf training? What are the biggest wastes of time? (i.e. Always warm up with a 7 iron)
“Two big ones” Keep your head down and keep your arms straight. Well, we talk about bending and getting a posture and your head should be relatively steady. But when people keep their head so still, they don’t end up turning their body on the through swing and they end up looking at the ground and the ball which turns into a disastrous arm only swing. Then I don’t like keeping your arms straight either. Think of it like throwing a frisbee, you don’t tell someone to stick there arms straight out to throw it. It needs to have some give to it. Pros can get away with it with the left arm lock, but when amateurs do it, it ends up as a tension filled mess. That’s two things I tell people to not think about right off the bat. Craig Harmon teaches to look at someone as they swing and you can tell the origin of their swing and how they were taught. Dad may have told the kid “keep your head down son” and then he’s so rigid and he cant make any rhythm or turn. Or you see someone pull the club back sooooo slow and then they lose rhythm tempo and timing.” I didn’t take notice to this until Chris pointed it out. I guess I can blame my dad for my terrible golf swing….
What do you believe makes your teaching style different? Who trained or influenced you?
“Currently still being influenced. As you engage in the golf world you hear things you like/don’t like and pick and choose off of the platter of education. I like Craig Harmon, he keeps it simple. Teachers who keep it simple and don’t have such a stringent system, I like. You have to have freedom to keep things simple. The swing happens in 1.5 seconds or less, so really how much can you think of. Diane Wilde, Craig and a lot of our local teachers are great. I use some teaching aids but not many, I like using video, because I am more visual and you can show them the swing and what they are doing (both good and bad) with a video. In terms of different, I try to keep it simple and as I get older, it gets simpler. You have to think about the person to, they have generally had this swing for a long time and you have to make gradual adjustments, you cant make a complete overhaul unless you start from the ground up on the first swing. If you change too much you can get in a one step up, two steps back situation and its really discouraging.”
Life Lessons
Whats the most important thing golf has taught you and you hope it teaches others?
“Thats Deep man and here’s my best Walter Cronkite voice” Golf is a game of a life time and its true. It was a sport that didn’t require legs and arms getting broken and my dad said you can play forever. I still try to play other sports, but I hurt more when I do them. Golf mirrors life a lot in that you’re always learning something new and if you don’t see that, you haven’t gotten into golf enough. The rules of the game are like the laws of society and you learn by playing and getting more involved. You are teaching yourself that you cant cheat in this game. To me, its opposite of the “if your not cheating, your not trying” because of the honesty in the sport. Its so fundamental, wholesome and good. It’s something that improves me as a player and person every time I go out on the course and thats why its a great place to start kids. I have never walked away from the course thinking I know it all, I am still learning. I thought when I became a PGA pro, I was all set, NOPE, I was then going to learn even MORE about golf.”
Random Goodness
Q: What is one thing you offer in your golf shop that you think EVERY golfer needs? (has to be $99 and under)
A: “As for what every player should have. an Orange Whip swing trainer. It’s a simple tool, great for tempo, right around $100, maybe a little more. To find out more about the Orange Whipe trainer, visit this site link http://www.orangewhiptrainer.com/
Q: What golf book is your favorite, do you recommend to read or have you most gifted in the past? I like this question for gentleman over 40 as they tend to read more….
“Teaching wise, David Leadbetter “Faults and Fixes”. This is NOT just a training book but its more so designed for a teacher or “Lessons From Golf Greats”, also by Leadbetter.
“Fun books I like are “Golf in the kingdom” by Michael Murphy. If you’re an avid fan and you haven’t read it, you need to! And “The Little Red Book” by Harvey Penick.”
Q: Name 3 things you need in the golf bag – CANNOT be a club.
A: “A line em up. It’s a tool to make a line on your ball to help with alignment.”
2. “A range finder. Have to know where you’re at to hit the proper club.” Go Golf U.S. recommended brand is the Bushnell tour V3
Chris wanted to change this up for his 3rd item and decided to make it What everyone should NOT have in their golf bag.
“PUT THE PHONE IN THE BAG or leave it at home. I have never seen the worst golfer in my life, but I have seen the best in Tiger and he was never carrying a phone on the course. When you have the phone, you have a diversion. When you have the phone, you want to work or engage on social media. You are here for generally $50 for the day at 4-5 hours, thats $10 per hour, if you can find a cheaper place to have fun, go do it.”
I couldn’t agree more with Chris here. I love technology, but the attachment to cell phones are slowing up the game. It’s 4 hours, ditch the phone! Use our app to save on your round and then forget it haha!
Q: What do you do for fun away from golf?
A: “I play in a rock n roll band. We’re not good, but it’s something creative and fun and my dad started with me years ago. I play guitar and sing as little as possible. We play southern rock, classic rock, stuff like Allman Brothers and Santana, really anything that we used to like. We’ll play at the Argyle Grill once in a while when we get together a little more. We are currently calling ourselves “Silverstreek”, because we all have greying or no hair haha!”
See a picture of Chris and “Silverstreek” below.
About Eagle Vale Golf Course From Devincentis
I wanted to put the pro’s on the hot seat and asked them, What is their favorite and least favorite hole on their golf course was? This may be me doing my own homework to know which holes to look out for and which to take some chances on when I play them…
Chris’s favorite hole – “Most people like, or talk about the 15th hole here, but I think number 1 is a great opening hole with a little length and plenty of trouble to start your round. OB right, fairway bunker, bunkers and pond near the right side of the green, got it all!”
Chris’s least favorite hole – “I won’t say I have a least favorite, it’ll be on my mind every time I play here! One of the worst things you can do is psych yourself out of a hole. No thanks!”
To help get the Eagle Vale Golf Course info out there, the public rates for 2017 will be about $52 weekend and $46 week day at peak rate for 18 with a cart . They offer a VIP membership for $249 for the season. This gives players a savings of $10 per round played. This deal helps you with the more you play, the more you save. You also get enrolled in GHIN for free plus a free lesson. Chris says, “They obviously can save $15 with the Go Golf U.S. app but they can’t use it every time so we offer that as well.” Maybe they can’t use is every time, but they have at least three shots at Eagle Vale with out app!
That concludes our March edition of “Meet The Pro” with Chris Devincentis. Next time you’re at Eagle Vale, say hello to this down to earth, fun and creative golf pro. Be sure to stay tuned for next month?s edition as well as other blog posts. Thanks for reading!
